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{
    "time": "2022-11-16 17:15:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Andr\u00e9 Pr\u00e9vost",
        "fr": "M. Andr\u00e9 Pr\u00e9vost"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7452497\" data-originallang=\"fr\">That's a very big question you're asking me. I don't pretend to have a complete answer, but the concept of intergovernmental coordination comes to mind.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7452498\" data-originallang=\"fr\">On this issue, perhaps more than many others, we're going to need intergovernmental coordination, and we'll also have to define the parameters of that coordination. It will probably take a tailored approach, not a one-size-fits-all approach. A colleague mentioned earlier that the cost of living is not the same across Canada, which is true. Nor should we give out the benefit with one hand and take it away with the other at tax time, partially or in full.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7452499\" data-originallang=\"fr\">So, as you can see, we need to define broad, Canada-wide parameters based on principles, some of which came up earlier. One of them was additional costs. People who have earned minimum wage all their lives receive quite a low level of benefits in their senior years. All clienteles and demographic groups must be respected. The concept of additional costs should be endorsed and enshrined in the terms of the benefit that would be coordinated with the federal, provincial and territorial governments.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7452500\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I've proposed one parameter, but there could be a series of others. We can't come up with a specific amount, because it's more complicated than that. To be fair and equitable, we're going to have to go with parameters to explain the rules of intergovernmental coordination. The overarching goal is to lift people with disabilities out of poverty, and that includes recognizing the concept of additional costs.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7452497\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> C'est une tr\u00e8s grande question que vous me posez l\u00e0. Je n'ai pas la pr\u00e9tention d'avoir une r\u00e9ponse compl\u00e8te et totale, mais le concept de coordination intergouvernementale me vient \u00e0 l'id\u00e9e.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7452498\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Dans ce dossier, peut-\u00eatre plus que dans beaucoup d'autres, il va falloir de la coordination intergouvernementale et en d\u00e9finir les param\u00e8tres. Il faudra probablement privil\u00e9gier une approche sur mesure, et non une approche uniforme. Un coll\u00e8gue mentionnait tant\u00f4t que le co\u00fbt de la vie n'est pas le m\u00eame partout au Canada, ce qui est une v\u00e9rit\u00e9. Il ne faut pas non plus donner une prestation d'une main pour la retirer de l'autre, partiellement ou en totalit\u00e9, au moment des d\u00e9clarations de revenus.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7452499\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Vous voyez donc la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 de d\u00e9finir de fa\u00e7on pancanadienne les grands param\u00e8tres, qui sont bas\u00e9s sur des principes dont certains ont \u00e9t\u00e9 nomm\u00e9s tant\u00f4t. Un de ceux-l\u00e0 est le surco\u00fbt. Des gens qui ont travaill\u00e9 toute leur vie au salaire minimum re\u00e7oivent, \u00e0 un \u00e2ge avanc\u00e9, des prestations pas tr\u00e8s \u00e9lev\u00e9es. Il faut respecter toutes les client\u00e8les et tous les groupes de la population. La notion de surco\u00fbt devrait \u00eatre ent\u00e9rin\u00e9e et ench\u00e2ss\u00e9e dans les modalit\u00e9s de la prestation qui serait coordonn\u00e9e avec le f\u00e9d\u00e9ral, le provincial et les territoires.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7452500\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Je propose un param\u00e8tre, mais il pourrait y en avoir une s\u00e9rie d'autres. On ne peut pas arriver avec un montant pr\u00e9cis, car c'est plus compliqu\u00e9 que cela. On va devoir y aller avec des param\u00e8tres pour expliquer les r\u00e8gles de la coordination intergouvernementale \u00e0 des fins d'\u00e9quit\u00e9 et de justice. L'objectif phare est de sortir de la pauvret\u00e9 les personnes en situation de handicap, notamment en reconnaissant la notion de surco\u00fbt.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/human-resources/44-1/44/andre-prevost-5/",
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    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "11921334",
    "document_url": "/committees/human-resources/44-1/44/",
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}