Speech (committee meeting)

{
    "time": "2020-03-12 15:35:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Dan Albas (Central Okanagan\u2014Similkameen\u2014Nicola, CPC)",
        "fr": "M. Dan Albas (Central Okanagan\u2014Similkameen\u2014Nicola, PCC)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"6116486\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, Mr. Chair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116487\" data-originallang=\"en\">I certainly appreciate MP Vaughan's intervention here and for citing his particular desire to make sure that there is a special focus within this study. I will say, though, that there are more views on this than simply that. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116488\" data-originallang=\"en\">While I appreciate his raising it for those who feel that a fourth stream is important, I also will say that there are some areas that may not neatly fit within the parameters he's set out.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116489\" data-originallang=\"en\"> For example, CMHC does fund different parts and touches upon different programs on reserve that don't often get studied by any group in Parliament. I would also simply suggest that for us not to be talking about urban indigenous housing on reserve.... Because there are many different permutations in British Columbia, I think there are special considerations that may not be captured under an individual housing program. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116490\" data-originallang=\"en\">I have Westbank First Nation in my riding. In B.C., there are many other unique cases where there is a mix of different housing and housing policy. With full respect, I would hope that the witnesses MP Vaughan brings are able to bring out those aspects that he thinks are lacking in our current policy. I also want to reiterate this for people who I serve directly or who are in from British Columbia who are in urban indigenous reserves, which I think is important. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116491\" data-originallang=\"en\">I just want to make sure that we are not scoping out because if we bring witnesses and suddenly analysts start saying that we can't count any of that testimony, as meaningful as it is.... Especially if we are planning on flying people out, to disregard their testimony on either CMHC or some of the existing programs or somehow how some rules don't align....</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116492\" data-originallang=\"en\">I will give you a good example, Mr. Chair. Sometimes a first nation will be given other lands that are not part of the reserve, yet they will have housing on the reserve. I think that we need to understand how those situations and different regulations line up when you have those cases. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116493\" data-originallang=\"en\">I see some nodding here. I do appreciate that he is receptive to that. I just don't want to have it where the analysts says that it's great testimony, but we can't use a word of it. That would disempower my constituents.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"6116486\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116487\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je suis certainement reconnaissant, envers M. Vaughan, de son intervention et de son souhait de donner une orientation particuli\u00e8re \u00e0 l'\u00e9tude. Mais j'ajouterai que ce n'est pas si simple.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116488\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'aime bien qu'il en ait parl\u00e9, pour ceux qui estiment qu'une quatri\u00e8me source de financement est importante, mais j'ajouterai qu'il existe des cas qui risquent de ne pas co\u00efncider exactement avec les param\u00e8tres qu'il a fix\u00e9s.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116489\" data-originallang=\"en\">Par exemple, la Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 canadienne d'hypoth\u00e8ques et de logement, la SCHL, finance diff\u00e9rents \u00e9l\u00e9ments et s'occupe de diff\u00e9rents programmes dans les r\u00e9serves qu'aucun groupe, au Parlement, n'\u00e9tudie souvent. Je laisserais aussi simplement entendre que le fait, pour nous, de ne pas discuter de logement dans la r\u00e9serve pour les Autochtones qui vivent en ville... En effet, beaucoup de changements diff\u00e9rents ont lieu en Colombie-Britannique et, pour cette raison, certains \u00e9l\u00e9ments particuliers risquent de ne pas \u00eatre pris en consid\u00e9ration dans le cadre d'un programme donn\u00e9 de logement. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116490\" data-originallang=\"en\">Dans ma circonscription vit la Premi\u00e8re Nation de Westbank. En Colombie-Britannique, beaucoup d'autres cas particuliers pr\u00e9sentant diverses formes et politiques de logement coexistent. Sauf votre respect, j'esp\u00e8re que les t\u00e9moins que M. Vaughan fera inviter pourront faire ressortir les aspects qui, selon lui, sont n\u00e9glig\u00e9s par notre politique actuelle. Je tiens \u00e9galement \u00e0 le r\u00e9it\u00e9rer pour mes commettants ou pour les \u00e9lecteurs de Colombie-Britannique qui vivent dans des r\u00e9serves autochtones urbaines. C'est important.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116491\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je tiens seulement \u00e0 m'assurer que nous ne d\u00e9bordons pas, parce que, si, apr\u00e8s des t\u00e9moignages, les analystes commencent soudainement \u00e0 les rejeter, malgr\u00e9 tout l'int\u00e9r\u00eat qu'ils pr\u00e9sentent... Particuli\u00e8rement si nous pr\u00e9voyons d'emmener ici des t\u00e9moins par avion, pour ensuite ne pas tenir compte de leurs t\u00e9moignages sur la SCHL, un programme ou l'incoh\u00e9rence de certaines r\u00e8gles...</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116492\" data-originallang=\"en\">Par exemple, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident, une Premi\u00e8re Nation se fera accorder des terres qui ne font pas partie de la r\u00e9serve. Pourtant, elle aura du logement sur la r\u00e9serve. Je pense que nous devons comprendre comment ces situations et divers r\u00e8glements concordent dans ces cas.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6116493\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vois des hochements de t\u00eate. Je lui suis reconnaissant de son ouverture d'esprit. \u00c9vitons de devoir rejeter int\u00e9gralement un t\u00e9moignage pourtant encens\u00e9 par les analystes. \u00c7a r\u00e9duirait mes \u00e9lecteurs \u00e0 l'impuissance.</p>"
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