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{
    "time": "2009-12-01 13:45:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Michael Savage (Dartmouth\u2014Cole Harbour, Lib.)",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"1770266\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you very much.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770267\" data-originallang=\"en\">Our committee, as the chair mentioned, has done some travelling. We're happy to be here today to hear the experience of those who are working with people who are living in poverty. We hope to hear from people who are living in poverty as we continue. We've had some of that.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770268\" data-originallang=\"en\"> It's a very powerful message from both of you.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770269\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I'd like to start, Kate, if I could, with you. I like what you said: it's your obligation to serve the person who is at the door. It's not to look for the poor but to serve the person who is at the door. We sometimes have this idea that we have to determine who the deserving poor are. I would think that people who show up at Maryhouse or people who show up at the Victoria Faulkner Women's Centre aren't there because they have a lot of options and a lot of alternatives. We really don't need to determine who's poor, right?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770270\" data-originallang=\"en\"> We had a member of Parliament this week, from my own province\u2014and we're not being televised or anything, so I'm not trying to pick on this particular person--who referred to people in Halifax as no-good people living on the street. There is still a view among some people that not everybody who's living in those conditions should be. But everybody is a human being. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770271\" data-originallang=\"en\">It seems to me that anybody who would show up at Maryhouse or at the Victoria Faulkner Women's Centre needs help. And it's not your job to.... I appreciate that point of view. You serve people who come looking for help.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"1770266\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci beaucoup.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770267\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le comit\u00e9, comme l'a mentionn\u00e9 le pr\u00e9sident, a voyag\u00e9 quelque peu. Nous sommes heureux d'\u00eatre ici aujourd'hui pour entendre les t\u00e9moignages de ceux qui travaillent avec des personnes qui vivent dans la pauvret\u00e9. Nous esp\u00e9rons entendre des t\u00e9moignages de personnes qui vivent dans la pauvret\u00e9 plus tard. Nous en avons d\u00e9j\u00e0 re\u00e7u.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770268\" data-originallang=\"en\">Vous nous avez toutes les deux livr\u00e9 un message fort puissant.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770269\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'aimerais commencer avec vous, Kate, si vous le permettez. J'aime ce que vous dites: vous avez l'obligation de vous occuper de la personne qui frappe \u00e0 la porte. Il ne s'agit pas de partir \u00e0 la recherche des pauvres mais de ceux qui se pr\u00e9sentent \u00e0 la porte. Nous avons parfois tendance \u00e0 penser qu'il faut d\u00e9terminer qui sont les pauvres qui m\u00e9ritent qu'on s'occupe d'eux. Je serais port\u00e9 \u00e0 croire que les personnes qui se pr\u00e9sentent \u00e0 la Maryhouse ou au Centre pour femmes Victoria Faulkner ne sont pas l\u00e0 parce qu'elles ont de nombreuses options. Nous n'avons pas \u00e0 d\u00e9terminer qui est pauvre, pas vrai?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770270\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous avons re\u00e7u un d\u00e9put\u00e9 de ma province cette semaine \u2014 ceci n'est pas t\u00e9l\u00e9vis\u00e9 ou quoi que ce soit, je n'ai donc pas l'intention de m'en prendre \u00e0 cette personne en particulier \u2014 qui a qualifi\u00e9 des gens de Halifax de bons \u00e0 rien vivant dans la rue. Certaines personnes pensent encore que ceux qui vivent dans ces conditions le m\u00e9ritent. Mais tout le monde est humain. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770271\" data-originallang=\"en\">Il me semble que quiconque se pr\u00e9sente \u00e0 la Maryhouse ou au Centre pour femmes Victoria Faulkner a besoin d'aide. Et ce n'est pas votre travail de... Je respecte ce point de vue. Vous servez les gens qui viennent chercher de l'aide.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/human-resources/40-2/63/michael-savage-1/",
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    "source_id": "2989490",
    "document_url": "/committees/human-resources/40-2/63/",
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}