Speech (committee meeting)

{
    "time": "2009-12-01 14:20:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Ms. Kate O'Donnell",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"1770356\" data-originallang=\"en\">I think part of the challenge there--and I think this is a really honest thing for governments, whatever level they are--is where the revenues come from. They come from the people, and we do have to have accountability. When we're doing that, we have to have accountability.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770357\" data-originallang=\"en\">When Maryhouse closed their shelter, people would still come, and they opened up another shelter. The government was spending $1,000 a night for an emergency shelter. They woke up and realized that they could put people in a hotel room more cheaply if only two people showed up one night needing shelter, so they were going to close that program and do that. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770358\" data-originallang=\"en\">They asked us if we wanted to be a referral, so I asked what it would entail if we were a referral. The first thing they said was that we'd have to find out if they were doing this because they didn't have any money or if it was because they were on a cross-country hike and this was a good place to stay. It's that accountability for how we're spending money and their perception that they just don't want to throw it away.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770359\" data-originallang=\"en\">It's hard. It's hard, and it's back to that question of who's poor and how we judge that, but it's also the responsibility in terms of stewardship: if you're getting the money and you're backing these things, then you want to see the value for your money, and that's a challenge.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"1770356\" data-originallang=\"en\">Selon moi, une partie du d\u00e9fi r\u00e9side dans la provenance des fonds, et je crois que c'est une chose plut\u00f4t honn\u00eate pour tous les ordres de gouvernement. Ce sont des fonds publics, et nous devons avoir une responsabilit\u00e9. Dans le cadre de nos activit\u00e9s, il faut rendre des comptes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770357\" data-originallang=\"en\">Lorsque Maryhouse a ferm\u00e9 son refuge, les gens continuaient de s\u2019y pr\u00e9senter. On en a ouvert un autre. Le gouvernement a pay\u00e9 1 000 $ par nuit pour l\u2019h\u00e9bergement d'urgence. Un jour, il s\u2019est rendu compte que ce serait moins cher de placer les gens dans une chambre d'h\u00f4tel si seulement deux personnes avaient besoin d\u2019un abri pour une nuit. Il allait donc mettre fin \u00e0 ce programme et proc\u00e9der ainsi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770358\" data-originallang=\"en\">On nous a demand\u00e9 si nous voulions \u00eatre un service d\u2019aiguillage, et j'ai demand\u00e9 ce dont il en retournerait. La premi\u00e8re chose qu\u2019on nous a dite, c'est qu\u2019il fallait d\u00e9terminer si les gens venaient nous voir parce qu'ils \u00e9taient sans le sou ou parce qu\u2019en parcourant le pays \u00e0 pied, ils ont trouv\u00e9 que ce serait un bon endroit o\u00f9 passer la nuit. C'est l\u00e0 l\u2019obligation de rendre des comptes sur la mani\u00e8re de d\u00e9penser l'argent et sur le fait que le gouvernement ne souhaite tout simplement pas jeter l\u2019argent par les fen\u00eatres.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1770359\" data-originallang=\"en\">C'est difficile. C\u2019est difficile, et cela nous ram\u00e8ne \u00e0 la question de savoir qui sont les pauvres et comment \u00e9valuer la pauvret\u00e9. Cependant, c'est aussi la responsabilit\u00e9 relativement \u00e0 l\u2019administration: si le gouvernement appuie ces initiatives financi\u00e8rement, il veut voir les r\u00e9sultats de cet investissement, et c'est un d\u00e9fi.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/human-resources/40-2/63/kate-odonnell-10/",
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    "source_id": "2989833",
    "document_url": "/committees/human-resources/40-2/63/",
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