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{
    "time": "2017-10-05 12:25:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Scott Reid (Lanark\u2014Frontenac\u2014Kingston, CPC)",
        "fr": "M. Scott Reid (Lanark\u2014Frontenac\u2014Kingston, PCC)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5057168\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5057169\" data-originallang=\"en\">That's actually an interesting suggestion. The minister has invited us to come back to her with suggested amendments, and perhaps the double number might be one we'd put in there, so thank you for that.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5057170\" data-originallang=\"en\">You talk about the importance of a deterrent actually having a deterrent effect. Politics being what it is, money that is available to me prior to the writ is more valuable than money that I have to pay back in some form of penalty after the writ, for reasons that are obvious. I can't spend money I don't have. When it's a fundraiser taking place now, a couple of years before a writ, presumably if we are in some respect non-compliant, if it's a fundraiser for me and I'm present, and I'm the leader of a party, and all those things that are required, and then it turns out that we've been in violation of the statute, we'd pay back a penalty that, as you suggest, is double the amount. That's presumably the process. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5057171\" data-originallang=\"en\">That's assuming the process is not very slow and that it all occurs between now and writ 2019. However, for an event in the election writ period, it would be a different story. There are other transgressions that occur during writ periods. There must be some other way of dealing with them. I'd be interested in your thoughts on how to deal with that.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5057168\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5057169\" data-originallang=\"en\">C'est int\u00e9ressant comme suggestion. La ministre nous a invit\u00e9s \u00e0 proposer des amendements et peut-\u00eatre qu'une amende double fera partie de ces propositions. Je vous en remercie.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5057170\" data-originallang=\"en\">Vous dites qu'il est important qu'un moyen de dissuasion soit efficace. La politique \u00e9tant ce qu'elle est, pour des raisons \u00e9videntes, les fonds \u00e0 ma disposition avant les \u00e9lections sont plus utiles que les sommes que j'aurai \u00e0 verser en amende apr\u00e8s les \u00e9lections. Je ne peux pas d\u00e9penser de l'argent que je n'ai pas. Disons qu'il s'agit d'une activit\u00e9 de financement qui a lieu quelques ann\u00e9es avant une \u00e9lection. S'il s'agit d'une activit\u00e9 organis\u00e9e pour moi, que je suis pr\u00e9sent, que je suis le chef du parti, et que tous les autres crit\u00e8res sont respect\u00e9s, mais qu'il s'av\u00e8re que nous avons enfreint la Loi, nous aurions \u00e0 verser une amende qui serait, comme vous le proposez, le double de la somme recueillie. Je pr\u00e9sume que c'est la fa\u00e7on dont les choses se d\u00e9rouleraient.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5057171\" data-originallang=\"en\">Tout cela est en supposant que le processus n'est pas tr\u00e8s lent et que tout cela se produit entre aujourd'hui et les \u00e9lections de 2019. Toutefois, c'est une tout autre histoire si une activit\u00e9 est organis\u00e9e pendant la p\u00e9riode \u00e9lectorale. D'autres infractions sont commises pendant les p\u00e9riodes \u00e9lectorales. Il doit y avoir une fa\u00e7on de traiter ces infractions. J'aimerais conna\u00eetre votre opinion \u00e0 ce sujet.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/house-affairs/42-1/72/scott-reid-1/",
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    "source_id": "9698700",
    "document_url": "/committees/house-affairs/42-1/72/",
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}