Speech (committee meeting)

{
    "time": "2023-01-25 14:25:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Robert Cutler",
        "fr": "M. Robert Cutler"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7553728\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you for the question.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7553729\" data-originallang=\"en\">To pick up on the last point made by the previous speaker, the OSCE did not send a fact-finding mission because the decision was poorly taken and without terms of reference.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7553730\" data-originallang=\"en\">The reason the Minsk Group has no chance, I'm sorry to say, is that its terms of reference have become obsolete. The Minsk Group's terms of reference were predicated upon the peaceful resolution of conflict, which has not come to pass. You are probably familiar with the six points in the so-called Madrid principles that were drafted in 2007 and revised in 2009. A reading of those six points shows that on their face they are obsolete. Either they have been accomplished or they have been overtaken by events. I think that's the way to say it. Also, if we look at the three co-chairs\u2014Russia, France and the U.S.\u2014none of them are interested in the Minsk Group anymore. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7553731\" data-originallang=\"en\">The U.S. Secretary of State just yesterday insisted that only direct bilateral contacts between the two parties was the way to proceed. France is not a neutral party due to very public proclamations by President Macron. For example, after the war broke out in the fall of 2020, he told his French co-citizens that France would not allow\u2014this is almost a direct quote, because I wrote about it\u2014Azerbaijan to reconquer upper Karabakh and that France will play its role to prevent this from taking place. That's a very close paraphrase, almost a direct quote. France is not trustworthy, and one can understand Azerbaijan's mistrust of France in this respect.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7553732\" data-originallang=\"en\">Finally, Russia doesn't want to give the U.S. or France a voice in things because they had been, until Charles Michel began his mediation or convocations in December 2021, which were very successful to a point.... Russia, following the November 2020 trilateral statement, was monopolizing the interactions between the two countries. None of the co-chairs of the Minsk Group have\u2014</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7553728\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci pour votre question.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7553729\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pour reprendre le dernier point de l'intervenante pr\u00e9c\u00e9dente, si l'OSCE n'a pas envoy\u00e9 de mission d'enqu\u00eate, c'est parce que la d\u00e9cision avait \u00e9t\u00e9 mal prise et qu'il n'y avait pas de mandat.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7553730\" data-originallang=\"en\">Si le Groupe de Minsk n'a aucune chance de r\u00e9ussir, je suis d\u00e9sol\u00e9 de le dire, c'est parce que son mandat est devenu obsol\u00e8te. Le mandat du Groupe de Minsk \u00e9tait fond\u00e9 sur la r\u00e9solution pacifique du conflit, ce qui n'a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 le cas. Vous connaissez probablement les six points des Principes de Madrid, qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9dig\u00e9s en 2007 et r\u00e9vis\u00e9s en 2009. La lecture de ces six points indique qu'ils sont obsol\u00e8tes. Soit ils ont \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9alis\u00e9s, soit ils ont \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9pass\u00e9s par les \u00e9v\u00e9nements. Je pense qu'on peut le dire ainsi. De plus, si l'on prend les trois copr\u00e9sidents \u2014 la Russie, la France et les \u00c9tats-Unis \u2014 aucun d'entre eux ne s'int\u00e9resse au Groupe de Minsk. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7553731\" data-originallang=\"en\">Hier encore, le secr\u00e9taire d'\u00c9tat am\u00e9ricain a insist\u00e9 sur le fait que la seule voie possible serait d'\u00e9tablir des contacts bilat\u00e9raux directs entre les deux parties. La France n'est pas une partie neutre en raison des proclamations tr\u00e8s publiques du pr\u00e9sident Macron. Par exemple, apr\u00e8s le d\u00e9clenchement de la guerre, \u00e0 l'automne 2020, il a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 \u00e0 ses concitoyens fran\u00e7ais que la France ne permettrait pas \u2014 il s'agit presque d'une citation directe, car j'ai \u00e9crit sur ce sujet \u2014 \u00e0 l'Azerba\u00efdjan de reprendre le Haut-Karabakh et que la France jouerait son r\u00f4le pour emp\u00eacher que cela ne se produise. Il s'agit d'une paraphrase tr\u00e8s fid\u00e8le, presque une citation directe. La France n'est pas digne de confiance, et on peut comprendre la m\u00e9fiance de l'Azerba\u00efdjan \u00e0 l'\u00e9gard de ce pays sur ce point.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7553732\" data-originallang=\"en\">Enfin, la Russie ne veut pas donner un droit de parole aux \u00c9tats-Unis ou \u00e0 la France sur la situation parce que c'\u00e9tait le cas jusqu'\u00e0 ce que Charles Michel commence sa m\u00e9diation ou ses convocations en d\u00e9cembre 2021, qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s fructueuses jusqu'\u00e0 un certain point... Suite \u00e0 la d\u00e9claration trilat\u00e9rale de novembre 2020, la Russie monopolisait les interactions entre ces deux pays. Aucun des copr\u00e9sidents du Groupe de Minsk n'a...</p>"
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