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{
    "time": "2022-11-21 16:05:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Stephen Brown",
        "fr": "M. Stephen Brown"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7468582\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you very much, Mr. Genuis.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468583\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'd also like to thank everybody here for their work on getting this bill to where it is, and the senators who sponsored the bill.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468584\" data-originallang=\"en\">On your question specifically, yes, I agree. The reason why we believe it's so important to mention East Turkestan, in this specific case.... We think there are three key reasons that compel, specifically. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468585\" data-originallang=\"en\">First, we have to remember that the House passed, while non-binding, a motion that labels what's happening right now in East Turkestan a genocide. There's no reason to equivocate about what's happening over there. Everybody knows exactly what's happening. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468586\" data-originallang=\"en\">The second brings us to the issue of enforcement. Given the fact that there's no legislative framework that relieves.... The CBSA has no visible cues to determine what is coming out of East Turkestan. It's very difficult to ascertain what is coming in. How do you source those goods? Having legislation that relieves them of the very onerous process of trying to determine where those products come from or were manufactured, and having a reverse onus provision that places responsibility on companies operating in the region, allows the CBSA to do their job. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468587\" data-originallang=\"en\">The last thing is coming in line with our other partners. The United States, the U.K. and Australia have all passed legislation recently. I think there are many examples of how to do this. There are many reasons why we should do this. The fact that there's a genocide happening over there is clear. We need to give law enforcement the tools to do their job. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468588\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you. </p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7468582\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci beaucoup, monsieur Genuis. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468583\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'aimerais aussi remercier tous ceux ici pr\u00e9sents qui ont fait en sorte que ce projet de loi se rende \u00e0 cette \u00e9tape, ainsi que les s\u00e9nateurs qui l'ont parrain\u00e9. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468584\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pour r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 votre question pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment, oui, je suis de votre avis. Nous croyons qu'il est important de nommer le Turkestan oriental dans ce cas pr\u00e9cis, car... En fait, nous estimons qu'il y a trois raisons pr\u00e9cises de le faire. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468585\" data-originallang=\"en\">Tout d'abord, il faut se souvenir que la Chambre a adopt\u00e9 une motion qui, bien que non contraignante, qualifie ce qui se passe pr\u00e9sentement au Turkestan oriental de g\u00e9nocide. Rien ne justifie une tergiversation sur ce qui se passe l\u00e0\u2011bas. Tout le monde sait exactement ce qui s'y passe. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468586\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ensuite, il y a l'enjeu de l'application des r\u00e8gles. \u00c9tant donn\u00e9 qu'il n'existe aucun cadre l\u00e9gislatif pour aider... L'ASFC ne dispose d'aucun indice visuel pour d\u00e9terminer la nature des produits en provenance du Turkestan oriental. C'est tr\u00e8s difficile de d\u00e9terminer une telle chose. D'o\u00f9 proviennent-ils? L'ASFC pourrait faire son travail s'il y avait une mesure l\u00e9gislative les d\u00e9chargeant du processus tr\u00e8s on\u00e9reux qui consiste \u00e0 essayer de d\u00e9terminer la provenance ou la m\u00e9thode de fabrication de ces produits ainsi qu'une disposition d'inversion du fardeau de la preuve qui deviendrait la responsabilit\u00e9 des entreprises. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468587\" data-originallang=\"en\">Enfin, parlons de l'harmonisation avec nos partenaires. Les \u00c9tats-Unis, le Royaume-Uni et l'Australie ont tous adopt\u00e9 des mesures l\u00e9gislatives \u00e0 ce sujet r\u00e9cemment. J'estime qu'il y a de nombreux exemples d'une possible marche \u00e0 suivre. Nous devrions agir, et ce, pour de multiples raisons. Il est clair qu'un g\u00e9nocide est en cours dans la r\u00e9gion. Nous devons donner aux forces de l'ordre les outils n\u00e9cessaires pour faire leur travail. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7468588\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci. </p>"
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    "url": "/committees/foreign-affairs/44-1/38/stephen-brown-2/",
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