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{
"time": "2024-12-09 12:50:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Ms. Sonia Strobel",
"fr": "Mme Sonia Strobel"
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8806653\" data-originallang=\"en\">With the way the act is currently worded, section 2.5 says, \u201cthe Minister may consider, among other things\u201d, and then it lists, under paragraph 2.5(g), \u201csocial, economic and cultural factors in the management of fisheries\u201d and, under paragraph 2.5(h), \u201cthe preservation or promotion of the independence of licence holders in commercial inshore fisheries\u201d.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8806654\" data-originallang=\"en\">There are a few problems there. First, indicating that she may consider these things is not strong enough wording, and I think that makes it difficult. I think it makes the minister and the department nervous to make bold decisions, because the act is vague. I think the wording should embolden them by saying \u201cwill\u201d or \u201cmust\u201d when considering those things.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8806655\" data-originallang=\"en\">Also, the wording about the independence of licence-holders in commercial inshore fisheries is often used by the department to say that this part only applies to the east coast, so that language needs to be changed. Although Minister LeBlanc at the time said that the use of the word \u201cpromotion\u201d of independent licence-holders made it also apply to the west coast, in actual practice on the ground, it's not being used in that way.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8806656\" data-originallang=\"en\">I think the act specifically needs to make very clear that the minister's responsibility is to always consider these things and that these things apply to the west coast as well.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8806653\" data-originallang=\"en\">Dans le libell\u00e9 actuel de la Loi, l'article 2.5 stipule que \u00ab le ministre peut prendre en consid\u00e9ration, entre autres, les \u00e9l\u00e9ments suivants \u00bb, puis il \u00e9num\u00e8re, \u00e0 l'alin\u00e9a 2.5g), \u00ab les facteurs sociaux, \u00e9conomiques et culturels dans la gestion des p\u00eaches \u00bb et, \u00e0 l'alin\u00e9a 2.5h), \u00ab la pr\u00e9servation ou la promotion de l'ind\u00e9pendance des titulaires de licences ou de permis dans le cadre des p\u00eaches c\u00f4ti\u00e8res commerciales \u00bb.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8806654\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'y vois quelques probl\u00e8mes. D'abord, le libell\u00e9 n'est pas assez fort et ne facilite gu\u00e8re les choses en disant que le ministre \u00ab peut \u00bb prendre en consid\u00e9ration ces choses\u2011l\u00e0. C'est vague et je pense que le ministre et le minist\u00e8re h\u00e9sitent alors \u00e0 prendre des d\u00e9cisions audacieuses. Je pense que le libell\u00e9 devrait les encourager en disant \u00ab le ministre prend en consid\u00e9ration \u00bb ou \u00ab doit prendre en consid\u00e9ration \u00bb.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8806655\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ensuite, le minist\u00e8re dit souvent que le libell\u00e9 concernant l'ind\u00e9pendance des titulaires de permis dans les p\u00eaches c\u00f4ti\u00e8res commerciales ne s'applique qu'\u00e0 la c\u00f4te Est, alors il faudrait modifier ce libell\u00e9. M\u00eame si le ministre LeBlanc a dit \u00e0 l'\u00e9poque que la \u00ab promotion \u00bb de l'ind\u00e9pendance des titulaires de permis s'appliquait \u00e9galement sur la c\u00f4te Ouest, en pratique, ce n'est pas ce qu'on voit sur le terrain.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8806656\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je pense que la Loi doit pr\u00e9ciser tr\u00e8s clairement qu'il incombe au ministre de toujours prendre en consid\u00e9ration ces choses\u2011l\u00e0 et que cela vaut \u00e9galement pour la c\u00f4te Ouest.</p>"
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"url": "/committees/fisheries/44-1/134/sonia-strobel-8/",
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