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{
    "time": "2009-05-07 09:50:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Joel Harden (Senior Researcher, Canadian Labour Congress)",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"1483002\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, Mr. Mulcair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483003\" data-originallang=\"en\">On page 24 of the brief we've circulated, we have a table from the OECD that summarizes the pension insurance arrangements in various countries.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483004\" data-originallang=\"en\">Canada has only one jurisdiction, Ontario, with a very minimal pension insurance system. That province, Ontario, just had a commission that recommended that the insurance program be increased and that the monthly benefit level be increased to $2,500 a month.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483005\" data-originallang=\"en\">Our view is this: for all the important things in their lives, workers are required to have mandatory insurance. It is required for their houses and for their cars, and even to work. An employer needs to make WCB and EI contributions, even though half the time workers can't get it, but that's another issue.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483006\" data-originallang=\"en\">We think that not having an insurance program for people's pensions, which are probably the biggest assets they have after their houses, is a major flaw in the public policy framework in Canada, so we're proposing, as we do in the brief, an insurance program that would work in the same way that the Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation works for credit union deposits and bank deposits. In those cases, if your financial institution declares bankruptcy, there's a program there to protect you.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483007\" data-originallang=\"en\"> We think there should be a similar program for defined benefit pensions. We think the program should be robust and should prevent employer fraud and fraudulent use. Several other countries have these programs. If we had this program, we wouldn't have the level of fear in Quebec and in English Canada that we have right now.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"1483002\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, monsieur Mulcair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483003\" data-originallang=\"en\">\u00c0 la page 24 du m\u00e9moire que nous avons distribu\u00e9, nous avons un tableau des pays de l'OCDE qui r\u00e9sume les modalit\u00e9s d'assurance-retraite des divers pays.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483004\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le Canada n'a qu'une seule province, l'Ontario, o\u00f9 existe un syst\u00e8me d'assurance-retraite et il est tr\u00e8s minime. Cette province, l'Ontario, vient juste de recevoir la recommandation d'une commission de majorer le programme d'assurance et de porter le niveau de la prestation mensuelle \u00e0 2 500 $ par mois.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483005\" data-originallang=\"en\">Notre point de vue est le suivant: pour toutes les choses importantes de leur vie, les travailleurs sont oblig\u00e9s d'avoir une assurance. Elle est obligatoire pour leur maison et leur voiture, et m\u00eame pour travailler. Un employeur doit cotiser \u00e0 la Commission des accidents du travail et \u00e0 l'AE, m\u00eame si la moiti\u00e9 du temps les travailleurs n'y sont pas admissibles, mais c'est l\u00e0 une autre histoire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483006\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous pensons que l'absence d'un programme d'assurance des retraites, qui repr\u00e9sentent sans doute le plus gros avoir des travailleurs apr\u00e8s leur maison, est une lacune majeure de la panoplie des politiques publiques du Canada, est c'est pourquoi nous proposons dans le m\u00e9moire un r\u00e9gime d'assurance qui fonctionnerait de la m\u00eame fa\u00e7on que la Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 d'assurance-d\u00e9p\u00f4ts du Canada \u00e0 l'\u00e9gard des d\u00e9p\u00f4ts dans les caisses de cr\u00e9dit et les banques. Si votre institution financi\u00e8re d\u00e9clare faillite, c'est l\u00e0 un programme qui vous prot\u00e8ge.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1483007\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous pensons qu'il devrait exister un programme similaire pour les r\u00e9gimes de retraite \u00e0 prestations d\u00e9termin\u00e9es. Nous pensons que le programme devrait \u00eatre robuste et devrait pr\u00e9venir la fraude et l'usage frauduleux de la part des employeurs. Plusieurs autres pays sont dot\u00e9s de tels programmes. Si nous en avions un, il ne r\u00e9gnerait pas au Qu\u00e9bec et dans le Canada anglais la peur qui s\u00e9vit actuellement.</p>"
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    "url": "/committees/finance/40-2/26/joel-harden-1/",
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    "source_id": "2747514",
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