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{
"time": "2026-04-23 16:25:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Hon. Joe Jordan",
"fr": "L'hon. Joe Jordan"
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"9369511\" data-originallang=\"en\">That wasn't one I highlighted, but I'll say this. One of the things I struggle with when we talk about in-house organizations and their interactions with government is that government is one of the biggest consumers in the country. I don't know what you spend on goods and services every year. Is it $30 billion?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9369512\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I would like to understand the difference between sales and lobbying, because if I have a company that makes widgets, and I want to convince the government that they should buy the \u201cincredible Jordan widget\u201d, is that lobbying or is that me, as an entrepreneur, trying to put food on my family's table?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9369513\" data-originallang=\"en\">It's about the lack of definition, which is joined at the hip with a lack of clear objectives, when you go down these roads. I've been in this business for over 20 years, and I still have a hard time understanding it.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"9369511\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce n'est pas l'une des recommandations que j'ai soulign\u00e9es, mais je dirai ceci. L'une des choses qui me posent probl\u00e8me lorsqu'il est question des entit\u00e9s internes et de leurs interactions avec le gouvernement, c'est que le gouvernement est l'un des plus grands consommateurs au pays. Je ne sais pas combien vous d\u00e9pensez chaque ann\u00e9e en biens et services. Est\u2011ce 30 milliards de dollars?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9369512\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'aimerais comprendre la diff\u00e9rence entre les ventes et le lobbying. Si j'ai une entreprise qui fabrique des gadgets et que j'essaie de convaincre le gouvernement d'acheter le \u00ab formidable gadget de Jordan \u00bb, est\u2011ce que je fais du lobbying ou est\u2011ce que j'essaie simplement, en tant qu'entrepreneur, de nourrir ma famille?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9369513\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le probl\u00e8me, lorsque l'on s'engage dans cette voie, c'est l'absence de d\u00e9finition, qui s'accompagne d'un manque d'objectifs clairs. Je travaille dans ce domaine depuis plus de 20 ans, et j'ai encore du mal \u00e0 comprendre tout cela.</p>"
},
"url": "/committees/ethics/45-1/38/joe-jordan-18/",
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"procedural": false,
"source_id": "13467449",
"document_url": "/committees/ethics/45-1/38/",
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}