Speech (committee meeting)

{
    "time": "2013-10-29 09:45:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Charlie Angus",
        "fr": "M. Charlie Angus"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"3453518\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I thank you, Mr. Chair, but I think that when we're talking about an attempt to take away the democratic rights of independent members of this House, this isn't about being angry; this is about stating facts. When you are actually trying to use a committee to undermine the rights of members within the House of Parliament and you don't even bother to get to the routine motions, I think the use of the term \u201ckangaroo court\u201d is fair. I think that's a reasonable term. I don't think you would find that to be unparliamentary. In fact, if you compare it to many of the terms that we've seen in the Westminster tradition over the last 400 years, I would blush if I said them. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3453519\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'm actually very, very concerned about the democratic erosion that we've seen under this government and that we're seeing at this committee.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3453520\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'd like to get back to the fact that they aren't even interested in the routine motions. This is what I'm talking about. These are the routine motions that we would normally debate today to establish the ability of this committee to work together, but they've decided that they're not interested in even a working committee because they want to get at the right of the independent members of this House to be able to make amendments at report stage.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3453521\" data-originallang=\"en\">There would be another motion that we would have taken, which is working meals.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"3453518\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vous remercie, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident, mais je pense que lorsqu'il est question de priver de leurs droits d\u00e9mocratiques les d\u00e9put\u00e9s ind\u00e9pendants, il ne faut pas confondre col\u00e8re et exposition des faits. Quand, en fait, on essaie, en se servant d'un comit\u00e9, de miner les droits de certains de nos d\u00e9put\u00e9s, en ne se donnant m\u00eame pas la peine de s'occuper des motions de r\u00e9gie interne, le terme \u00ab mascarade \u00bb d\u00e9crit bien ce dont il s'agit, et personne ne le consid\u00e9rerait comme non parlementaire. En fait, si on le comparait \u00e0 de nombreuses expressions utilis\u00e9es au cours des 400 derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es \u00e0 Westminster, c'est lui que je ne rougirais pas d'utiliser.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3453519\" data-originallang=\"en\">En fait, je suis extr\u00eamement pr\u00e9occup\u00e9 par l'\u00e9rosion des droits d\u00e9mocratiques auxquels nous assistons sous le r\u00e9gime actuel et dans ce comit\u00e9 m\u00eame.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3453520\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je voudrais revenir au fait qu'on ne veut m\u00eame pas discuter des motions de r\u00e9gie interne. Voil\u00e0 la question. Normalement, nous devrions discuter aujourd'hui de motions de r\u00e9gie interne pour permettre au comit\u00e9 de fonctionner harmonieusement, mais certains ne veulent rien savoir, parce qu'ils tiennent \u00e0 discuter du droit des d\u00e9put\u00e9s ind\u00e9pendants de pouvoir apporter des amendements \u00e0 l'\u00e9tape du rapport.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3453521\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous aurions pu aborder une autre motion,celle qui porte sur les repas de travail.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/ethics/41-2/2/charlie-angus-10/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/charlie-angus/",
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    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "8110334",
    "document_url": "/committees/ethics/41-2/2/",
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