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{
    "time": "2009-12-01 12:30:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Christian Ouellet (Brome\u2014Missisquoi, BQ)",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"1771609\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Thank you, Mr. Chairman.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1771610\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Lloyd, you said earlier that over the long term the emissions reductions provided for in Bill <a data-HoCid=\"3643764\" href=\"/bills/40-2/C-311/\" title=\"An Act to ensure Canada assumes its responsibilities in preventing dangerous climate change\">C-311</a> were very high, but that you did not know how they could be realized. The long-term targets contained in this bill are on the order of 80%, which represents more or less the same targets as the United States will be adopting for the period between now and 2050. That is what Europe and all of the other stakeholders adopted. Contrary to what Mr. Woodworth just said, witnesses have indicated that in Europe, using 1990 as a reference year, the target is 34%.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1771611\" data-originallang=\"fr\">This bill only refers to a 25% target using 1990 as a reference year. So, we are not talking about 80% within a few years. In the long term everyone agrees. That seemed to be what was bothering you earlier\u2014we don't know how we could reach such a high target. However, everyone has the same target. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1771612\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Something else was said which is that the Kyoto Accord is no longer being discussed, but rather the Copenhagen agreement, which will be much more demanding. The reductions will be much greater and all countries are preparing for them.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1771613\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Could you tell me, Mr. Lloyd, why you believe that such a bill would favour the United States?</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"1771609\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Merci, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1771610\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur Lloyd, vous avez dit tout \u00e0 l'heure qu'\u00e0 long terme, les r\u00e9ductions pr\u00e9vues dans le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"3643764\" href=\"/bills/40-2/C-311/\" title=\"An Act to ensure Canada assumes its responsibilities in preventing dangerous climate change\">C-311</a> \u00e9taient tr\u00e8s fortes, mais que vous ne saviez pas comment elles pourraient se r\u00e9aliser. Les cibles \u00e0 long terme contenues dans ce projet de loi sont de l'ordre de 80 p. 100, ce qui repr\u00e9sente \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s les cibles que les \u00c9tats-Unis vont adopter en pr\u00e9vision de 2050. C'est ce que l'Europe et tous les autres intervenants ont adopt\u00e9. Contrairement \u00e0 ce que M. Woodworth vient de dire, des t\u00e9moins ont indiqu\u00e9 ici qu'en Europe, on vise 34 p. 100 \u2014 1990 \u00e9tant l'ann\u00e9e de r\u00e9f\u00e9rence. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1771611\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Ce projet de loi ne parle que de 25 p. 100 par rapport \u00e0 1990. Donc, on ne parle pas de 80 p. 100 d'ici quelques ann\u00e9es. \u00c0 long terme, tout le monde s'entend. C'est ce qui semblait vous d\u00e9ranger tout \u00e0 l'heure: on ne sait pas comment on pourra atteindre une cible aussi \u00e9lev\u00e9e. Cependant, tout le monde a la m\u00eame cible. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1771612\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Il y a une autre chose qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 dite, c'est qu'on ne parle plus de l'Accord de Kyoto, mais de celui de Copenhague qui sera beaucoup plus exigeant. Les r\u00e9ductions seront beaucoup plus fortes et l'ensemble des pays s'y pr\u00e9parent. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1771613\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Pourriez-vous me dire, monsieur Lloyd, pourquoi vous croyez qu'un tel projet de loi favoriserait les \u00c9tats-Unis?</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/environment/40-2/41/christian-ouellet-1/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/christian-ouellet/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/529/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "2987091",
    "document_url": "/committees/environment/40-2/41/",
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}