{"time": "2016-10-20 18:20:00", "attribution": {"en": "Ms. Ruby Sahota", "fr": "Mme Ruby Sahota"}, "content": {"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"4587463\" data-originallang=\"en\">I completely understand that you're here endorsing it, but what we're trying to figure out, as a committee...or I'm trying to figure out what the connection is. Tomorrow, if we change to a particular system, are we going to have those benefits that we are now advocating for?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"4587464\" data-originallang=\"en\">I would hate to move to a system and say, \u201cThe reasons we're doing this is <em>x</em>, <em>y</em> and <em>z</em>,\u201d and then <em>x</em>, <em>y</em>, and <em>z</em> don't happen.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"4587465\" data-originallang=\"en\">How does Ontario end up being more successful than New Zealand? It just boggles my mind, because all I've been hearing for a long time is that it's the voting system that has to change in order to encourage more women to participate or to get nominated.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"4587466\" data-originallang=\"en\">Do you have any idea about, at the nomination level, what they did differently to get to that level, or do you think it was just that influence of having female leaders that encouraged women to step forward?</p>", "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"4587463\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je comprends bien que vous soyez ici pour appuyer cela, mais le comit\u00e9 cherche \u00e0 comprendre le lien \u2014 ou je cherche \u00e0 le comprendre. Si nous adoptons un syst\u00e8me diff\u00e9rent demain, obtiendrons-nous les avantages que nous d\u00e9fendons maintenant?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"4587464\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je ne voudrais surtout pas que nous appliquions un nouveau syst\u00e8me en le justifiant par <em>x</em>, <em>y</em> ou <em>z</em>, puis <em>x</em>, <em>y</em> et <em>z</em> ne se produisent pas.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"4587465\" data-originallang=\"en\">Que fait l'Ontario pour r\u00e9ussir mieux que la Nouvelle-Z\u00e9lande? Je n'en reviens pas. On nous dit depuis tr\u00e8s longtemps que nous devons changer de mode de scrutin pour encourager un plus grand nombre de femmes \u00e0 participer ou \u00e0 se faire nommer candidates.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"4587466\" data-originallang=\"en\">Auriez-vous une id\u00e9e de ce que l'Ontario fait diff\u00e9remment pendant le processus de nomination? Ou pensez-vous que le seul fait d'avoir \u00e9lu des dirigeantes a encourag\u00e9 les femmes \u00e0 se pr\u00e9senter?</p>"}, "url": "/committees/electoral-reform/42-1/44/ruby-sahota-2/", "politician_url": "/politicians/ruby-sahota/", "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4209/", "procedural": false, "source_id": "9174787", "document_url": "/committees/electoral-reform/42-1/44/", "related": {"document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fcommittees%2Felectoral-reform%2F42-1%2F44%2F"}}